(原文來自:http://eulertruthbible.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/the-argument-from-prophecy/)
我曾聽過不少證明基督教中的神存在的論據,它們大意都是自然世界和理念世界是如何如何的需要牠去維持,我即時的想法是我們的物理存在和精神存在原來是如此的脆弱,一切只依靠一個超自然神祗的同情!
其中一個較有趣的證明是由預言去證明基督教中的神是存在的,因為基督教聖經曾有不少準確的預言,如果不是真有其神,聖經中一字一句何以有如此準確的預測,先知不就是代表了字宙是由基督教中的神主宰?基督教中的神存在不就是站在聖經預言背後的一字一句中嗎?
我的印象是提出此說的人一定不是東方人,因為他/她不知道佛教、道教也有相當豐富的訓練預言者的傳統,請問基督教中的神的特性又如何從佛教、道教的預言可訓練性彰顯出來呢?難道是比基督教歷史更悠長的佛教、道教是源自於基督教嗎?還是佛教、道教的預言其實是自基督教的聖經!?另外,由預言所引證的基督教的神全知的特性又如何可以推導出全善和全能這兩個同樣是基督教的神的特性呢?我們如何用邏緝由全知的特性推導出全善和全能呢?
更重要的一點是,基督教的神全知當然代表了聖經的預言一定是100%準碓,就算是0.1%的錯誤也不可以接受;相反,聖經的預言就算是100%準碓也不可以引出基督教的神是全知的結論。聖經的預言準確只能合理地增加我們對基督教的神是全知的信心,它本身卻不能直接代表基督教的神是全知。同時,不少其他宗教都集中訓練他們信徒的預知能力,包括箸名的藏傳佛教,不單有預言,更有進的一步的用轉世靈童來引證預言的歷史傳統,如此一來,依由預言去證明基督教中的神是存在的邏緝,藏傳佛教中的神祉當然也是基督教中的神了,好一個有容乃大!
最後一點來自容格對性格的分類,其中一項分類是感覺對直覺(作者是直覺),所以心理學基本上已接受了部份人是有先知先覺的能力,事未發生便已知道,還有在超心理學大量的實驗數據證明不少人都有未卜先知的能力。如果由預言去證明基督教中的神是存在的邏緝是對的,又如何解釋當中有不少受測試者不單是不信基督教,更是沒有宗教信仰的呢?再依預知能力是為基督教中的神被視為存在必要特性,豈不是隨街都是神在行走?
2008年9月11日 星期四
The thought of the idea of Prophecy
I had the benefit of born in cultures which heavily influenced by Buddhist Philosophy, therefore my inquiry into the idea of Prophecy has an headstart compare to people in non-Buddhist culture. To have a coherent world and to be logical, Prophecy is a special information object that doesn’t disrupt the original chain of causality(which it assume there is only one world but not many exists parallel to each other.) So we can likewise identify information object which has such a special property,
The logics are actually very simple:
A. There is only one future,
B. Prophecy allow an information travel backward from future to now,
If Prophecy can change future, then it follow that the Prophecy itself is either invalid, or at worst, it destroy the chain of causality which lead to the existence of Prophecy itself. Since neither is allowed to exists logically, then it follows that Prophecy is a self-servicing information object which seeds its only existence, or at least it always produce an effect that will not destroy the chain of causality lead to formation of itself. In other words, Prophecy is something never change the future.
The logics are actually very simple:
A. There is only one future,
B. Prophecy allow an information travel backward from future to now,
If Prophecy can change future, then it follow that the Prophecy itself is either invalid, or at worst, it destroy the chain of causality which lead to the existence of Prophecy itself. Since neither is allowed to exists logically, then it follows that Prophecy is a self-servicing information object which seeds its only existence, or at least it always produce an effect that will not destroy the chain of causality lead to formation of itself. In other words, Prophecy is something never change the future.
2008年9月5日 星期五
The nature of Prophecy
My idea of prophecy is somewhat differ from the common definition. IN my opinion, prophecy is not itself passively predict what is happening in future, rather it is structure in such a way, when revealed, that would concatenate the existing tendencies toward a future as predicted. Prophecy could thus consider an active shaper of history rather than just waiting to be compared with result. Therefore those prophecies that are never revealed is pointless, and is doubtful of their accuracy.
So prophecy, in a sense, is how the future affect the present in such a way to instantiate itself. And it should consider to be more than merely information, because it also contain an psychological effect on the reader, thus it could seen as a self-recursive loop much like the universe.
I don't believe in the assumption that any n instance of possible outcome must share equal probability. Nature is seldom that fair, and it often biased toward certain direction of development in subtle ways. Those, we could theoretically separate the real prophecy from other ‘false’ prophecy by comparing the process which they come to realize themselves through existing social-political structure through possible reader. We could examine through the route of how prophecy realize itself.
For a superficial instance, there are prophecy talking about Communist China become the most powerful country in the world, and there are those who talk the exactly opposite way. We could thus examine the validity through its effect on the reader. Assume what Communist China lack at the time of surfacing of this prophecy is just morale and self-confidence, then this prophecy has higher chance to be realize than sooth-saying ones via itself psychological effect. On the other hand, if what Communist China now is suffering from delusion of grandeur, overconfidence and arrogance at the moment it appears, then this prophecy meme has lower chance of materialize itself since it harm its own cause . From this understanding, I consider the prophecy of ‘Doomsday for Communist China’ has more chance to be realized.
So prophecy, in a sense, is how the future affect the present in such a way to instantiate itself. And it should consider to be more than merely information, because it also contain an psychological effect on the reader, thus it could seen as a self-recursive loop much like the universe.
I don't believe in the assumption that any n instance of possible outcome must share equal probability. Nature is seldom that fair, and it often biased toward certain direction of development in subtle ways. Those, we could theoretically separate the real prophecy from other ‘false’ prophecy by comparing the process which they come to realize themselves through existing social-political structure through possible reader. We could examine through the route of how prophecy realize itself.
For a superficial instance, there are prophecy talking about Communist China become the most powerful country in the world, and there are those who talk the exactly opposite way. We could thus examine the validity through its effect on the reader. Assume what Communist China lack at the time of surfacing of this prophecy is just morale and self-confidence, then this prophecy has higher chance to be realize than sooth-saying ones via itself psychological effect. On the other hand, if what Communist China now is suffering from delusion of grandeur, overconfidence and arrogance at the moment it appears, then this prophecy meme has lower chance of materialize itself since it harm its own cause . From this understanding, I consider the prophecy of ‘Doomsday for Communist China’ has more chance to be realized.
2008年9月4日 星期四
北京奧運是世界未日的序幕
1. 如果可阻止北京奧運發生,四未日天使之一「戰爭」不會被釋放出來;雖然油管之爭亦是一定發生,西方和俄羅斯因語言、文化的心結仍在,但沒有奧運的停戰令作掩飾,喬治亞不會夠膽向北奧塞亞出兵。同時,如果不是由以假代真聞名天下,不受西方尊重的中共來舉行,喬治亞在心理上不太可能違反奧運的停戰令。
2. 因為北京奧運,中共國忽略了全國的環境保護,結果依據大紀元消息,舉辦奧運城市爆發傳染病的消息被掩蓋。可幸的是好像不是太多外國遊客(?)去看奧運,但瘟疫可能因此散播到全世界,中共國的環境保護問題,變成全球問題。環境保護問題為副,政治問題才是元凶,世界明知中共的內外問題,但為了錢照來不誤,是自作孽。
3. 因為北京奧運,曾蔭權無暇理香港大事,結果副部長+梁展文+(?)連中三元。他為了獻媚可能斷送自己的政治前途。
4. 因為北京奧運,中共勞民傷財,傷及元氣,回天乏術,又因不理天時地利,結果賠了大本(中共內部文件指全國總成本為12000億:100萬義工留在北京損失的生產值、人民戰爭式保安的花費、工廠停工、北京不少商業活動被停止、武警公安駐防的工錢、各項環保措施造成的經濟損失及六個奧運城市人口外流的經濟損失,不包括東海油田及美國房按)。中共國今年天災連連,大型民變數起(楊佳案),經濟又是有史以來最差的一年,天氣署熱,而所謂北京奧運的經濟成果只會加劇社會的積怨,為了北京奧運又要開放網外境站,遲一點又有被煽動的黑客作反,中共要捱過今年是要超級好運的事來沖喜,歡笑今宵散場以後怎麼辦?很奇怪,我曾算出來的中共滅亡日期居然有2個,錯的一個簡直好像是亂來的,唔通錯有錯着?
5. 北京奧運聖火傳送全世界的象徵意義,雖名叫祥雲火炬.但是一來所到之處無一是晴天,二來火炬背後的中共國今年天災人禍連連,可謂相當不祥,三來火炬本身無故熄滅之次數破了世界紀錄,並非吉兆,四來上屆火炬交接儀式前,半個希臘都陷於火海,亦非祥端,五來中共最喜用紅色,火炬本身是火氣旺盛,而所到之處均是愛國憤青以紅色旗海迎接,甚至連香港亦不例外,鮮紅色難免令人聯想到血流成河,而火代表戰爭、暴動和不安。合起來的意思就是因為西方世界失去道德,結果世界被北京奧運引發的火焰包圍,四處都是戰爭、暴動和不安。從心理學的角度去看,北京奧運聖火在整個國際政治、經濟、社會情況下,在人類集體潛意識中引發出不安、燥動和攻擊性,加上世界本身陷於的能源危機、溫室效應、通脹、恐佈主義威脅的處境,加快了人類文明的毀滅過程。
2. 因為北京奧運,中共國忽略了全國的環境保護,結果依據大紀元消息,舉辦奧運城市爆發傳染病的消息被掩蓋。可幸的是好像不是太多外國遊客(?)去看奧運,但瘟疫可能因此散播到全世界,中共國的環境保護問題,變成全球問題。環境保護問題為副,政治問題才是元凶,世界明知中共的內外問題,但為了錢照來不誤,是自作孽。
3. 因為北京奧運,曾蔭權無暇理香港大事,結果副部長+梁展文+(?)連中三元。他為了獻媚可能斷送自己的政治前途。
4. 因為北京奧運,中共勞民傷財,傷及元氣,回天乏術,又因不理天時地利,結果賠了大本(中共內部文件指全國總成本為12000億:100萬義工留在北京損失的生產值、人民戰爭式保安的花費、工廠停工、北京不少商業活動被停止、武警公安駐防的工錢、各項環保措施造成的經濟損失及六個奧運城市人口外流的經濟損失,不包括東海油田及美國房按)。中共國今年天災連連,大型民變數起(楊佳案),經濟又是有史以來最差的一年,天氣署熱,而所謂北京奧運的經濟成果只會加劇社會的積怨,為了北京奧運又要開放網外境站,遲一點又有被煽動的黑客作反,中共要捱過今年是要超級好運的事來沖喜,歡笑今宵散場以後怎麼辦?很奇怪,我曾算出來的中共滅亡日期居然有2個,錯的一個簡直好像是亂來的,唔通錯有錯着?
5. 北京奧運聖火傳送全世界的象徵意義,雖名叫祥雲火炬.但是一來所到之處無一是晴天,二來火炬背後的中共國今年天災人禍連連,可謂相當不祥,三來火炬本身無故熄滅之次數破了世界紀錄,並非吉兆,四來上屆火炬交接儀式前,半個希臘都陷於火海,亦非祥端,五來中共最喜用紅色,火炬本身是火氣旺盛,而所到之處均是愛國憤青以紅色旗海迎接,甚至連香港亦不例外,鮮紅色難免令人聯想到血流成河,而火代表戰爭、暴動和不安。合起來的意思就是因為西方世界失去道德,結果世界被北京奧運引發的火焰包圍,四處都是戰爭、暴動和不安。從心理學的角度去看,北京奧運聖火在整個國際政治、經濟、社會情況下,在人類集體潛意識中引發出不安、燥動和攻擊性,加上世界本身陷於的能源危機、溫室效應、通脹、恐佈主義威脅的處境,加快了人類文明的毀滅過程。
My extention of this Prophecy
My father’s thought on this prophecy:
1. Obama win the US election;
2. White supremacist group assassinate Obama;
3. The assassin is caught but release, Africa American charge US government for conspiracy;
4. Some Black dominated States seeking independence from USA, Federal Court denies, those States taking up arms.
5. Civil War in USA!
1. Obama win the US election;
2. White supremacist group assassinate Obama;
3. The assassin is caught but release, Africa American charge US government for conspiracy;
4. Some Black dominated States seeking independence from USA, Federal Court denies, those States taking up arms.
5. Civil War in USA!
2008年8月27日 星期三
My commentary on this Prophecy
http://astrology.fightclub.com.pk/text/t-107643-p-1.html
1. Indeed a netizen from US joking about CA seeking independence when Bush is elected by slight majority. N.Y is famous for its liberalism, Texas being conservative. Does each election bridge the difference between left and right, or widening it? Or maybe Bush has done so much damage to the reputation of democratic system in US? Or combination of two?
2. Conditional. If 1 is false then 2 can’t be disprove. I can imagine different state seeking independence, but what kind of dispute can’t be resolve by American tradition: Court Battles(Land, oil, natural resource)? Why wage war? Over what?
*3. Indeterminable until today. But this 2008 Olympic break all the record on all kind of complain, the activist does not rest even after Olympic.
4. Have to wait until 2015. Conditional upon 2.
5. We already see Russia invade Georgia, and refuse to leave. The reason that cold war never disappear is for the sake of oil. Politically, how does Putin maintain his popularity in oligarchy of Russia? Russian don’t like to be a weak country after years of glory. Like China, the transition to capitalism only increase the difference between rich and poor, decrease the stability of nation. Because unlike Eastern European countries, Russia has little history of a functional democracy, and capitalism make us all slave to money.
6. In quantum mechanic, yes. The untested theory is here, but of no practical usage.
7. Conditional upon 4.
8. Remind me the movie ‘The Day after tomorrow’, conditional upon 7.
9. Look at youtube, it is already part of daily life. Even I have a youtube account. The rise of New Age is already observed. As science progress, the emptiness of humanity would only increase.
* According to my source in China, Beijing Olympic is extremely damaging to the rule of Chinese Communist Party, spending 62.5 billion dollar in the middle of recession isn't a wise decision。 Plus, rebelling organization working hard daily to destroy the legitimacy of Chinese Communist Party.
My conclusion, CCP can only last till 12/26/2008.
1. Indeed a netizen from US joking about CA seeking independence when Bush is elected by slight majority. N.Y is famous for its liberalism, Texas being conservative. Does each election bridge the difference between left and right, or widening it? Or maybe Bush has done so much damage to the reputation of democratic system in US? Or combination of two?
2. Conditional. If 1 is false then 2 can’t be disprove. I can imagine different state seeking independence, but what kind of dispute can’t be resolve by American tradition: Court Battles(Land, oil, natural resource)? Why wage war? Over what?
*3. Indeterminable until today. But this 2008 Olympic break all the record on all kind of complain, the activist does not rest even after Olympic.
4. Have to wait until 2015. Conditional upon 2.
5. We already see Russia invade Georgia, and refuse to leave. The reason that cold war never disappear is for the sake of oil. Politically, how does Putin maintain his popularity in oligarchy of Russia? Russian don’t like to be a weak country after years of glory. Like China, the transition to capitalism only increase the difference between rich and poor, decrease the stability of nation. Because unlike Eastern European countries, Russia has little history of a functional democracy, and capitalism make us all slave to money.
6. In quantum mechanic, yes. The untested theory is here, but of no practical usage.
7. Conditional upon 4.
8. Remind me the movie ‘The Day after tomorrow’, conditional upon 7.
9. Look at youtube, it is already part of daily life. Even I have a youtube account. The rise of New Age is already observed. As science progress, the emptiness of humanity would only increase.
* According to my source in China, Beijing Olympic is extremely damaging to the rule of Chinese Communist Party, spending 62.5 billion dollar in the middle of recession isn't a wise decision。 Plus, rebelling organization working hard daily to destroy the legitimacy of Chinese Communist Party.
My conclusion, CCP can only last till 12/26/2008.
2008年8月20日 星期三
Millennium、God.com和世界未日
我記得在美國星期五的Fox電視晚有個劇集叫「Millenniums」,當然是當正千禧年為世界未日,有一集說一班印第安人要捉主角去喝毒 藥來看他們的種族前途,因為他們的祭司只看到一半,一定是某位外族人才可以預言到下一半,主角看到了一個影像:一班水牛在街上四處走,後來果然成為事實, 但是大祭司卻拒絕承認預言真的應驗了,這等於是他族/他自己的未日。主角如此嘲笑大祭司:「The prophecy are fulfilled, you are just too blind to see it.」如此真有意思,是不是所有宗教的教徒都會如此?最近常常在網上聽到中共未日的說法,心想這就算是真的,中共國的人的反應會不會和大祭司一樣?
這又令我想起有一套港產片叫「未日風暴」(God.com),結尾是十分有意思,亦有點哲學的味道。什麼日子是世界未日,這就是每一天: 自911以後,世上沒有一處是安全的地方,而油價高企、通脹以致地區戰爭和政治不穩,專制政治(中國、俄羅斯)重新抬頭,民主制度日漸被跨國企業如Microsoft、Nike、Coca-cola腐蝕,壟斷及反競爭行為不絕:你用的電腦就是(我不用Microsoft及它的所有軟件的)、ISP和政府合作監聽通訊、媒體日漸失去中立性 (尤其 是美國),不斷散播右傾的「消費自由就是自由的全部、經濟是人類生活的一切」,約可稱為「重商主義」的思想,然後是溫室效應、超級細菌、生態系統崩潰,還 有人為的以引發天災為武器等。世界每天都是在面對這些問題,世界未日真的是如此難以想像,真的是如此不合邏緝?真的是不合乎常理?還是不少人所謂現實的人 不願面對現實,尤其是既得利益者?
這又令我想起有一套港產片叫「未日風暴」(God.com),結尾是十分有意思,亦有點哲學的味道。什麼日子是世界未日,這就是每一天: 自911以後,世上沒有一處是安全的地方,而油價高企、通脹以致地區戰爭和政治不穩,專制政治(中國、俄羅斯)重新抬頭,民主制度日漸被跨國企業如Microsoft、Nike、Coca-cola腐蝕,壟斷及反競爭行為不絕:你用的電腦就是(我不用Microsoft及它的所有軟件的)、ISP和政府合作監聽通訊、媒體日漸失去中立性 (尤其 是美國),不斷散播右傾的「消費自由就是自由的全部、經濟是人類生活的一切」,約可稱為「重商主義」的思想,然後是溫室效應、超級細菌、生態系統崩潰,還 有人為的以引發天災為武器等。世界每天都是在面對這些問題,世界未日真的是如此難以想像,真的是如此不合邏緝?真的是不合乎常理?還是不少人所謂現實的人 不願面對現實,尤其是既得利益者?
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